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Messages Posted 1 April 1997 - 15 August 1997
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Murnan - Egan Connection In Chicago?

Maybe I am a long-lost cousin of yours? My great-grandfather, George Francis Egan, Sr., married a lovely lady by the name of Katherine Murnan of Chicago in the late 1800's. They had 6 children: George Francis Egan Jr. (my grandfather), Florence, Marie, Elisabeth, Bernard, Walter (died at age 3) and another Florence who died at infancy. I have tons of information about the Egan side of the family, but all I know about Katherine is that her mother's name is believed to be Martha and that the family was from Ireland.

I literally started crying when I read your history of the Murnanes - it is so thrilling to think that these might be MY people!!! Do Katherine and Martha fit anywhere in the information that you have? PLEASE write me soon and let me know - I am so excited!!! I have several aunts who will be just as excited - they have been wanting to find their grandmother's family. THANKS!!!!

Murnane - O'Brien Connection in California

I'm searching for any children or grandchildren of a Tim Murnane and Margaret O'Brien who were married in San Francisco, CA on 9/15/1908. Tim Murnane was my grandfather's younger brother. Tim was born in Colomane, Co. Cork in November of 1875. I don't know if Tim stayed in California, but I see that there are a number of California Murnane's on the Bulletin Board who might have some clues or leads for me to follow. All I know is that Tim died before July of 1936 and left his wife Margaret with some children. I have someone in San Francisco looking in the obits for a Tim Murnane who fits the description, but she cannot guarantee that she will find him.

Murnane - O'Brien Connection -- Part II

Received your request for info on Timothy Murnane, San Francisco. Just went through the phone book as I live and am from the area. I started to call the Murnanes that were listed. No luck so far in talking to one related to Timothy and Margaret. I will definitely let you know if I call someone who is related.

Vital Statistics Section
Department of Health Services
P.O. Box 730241
Sacramento, CA 94244-0241
916-445-2684

Death Certificate is $9.00. They have all the birth, death and marriage certs since 7-1905. San Francisco direct is:

Patricia Kennedy (still looking for Michael Murnane, Caherconlish, Limerick!!!
rrooggeerr@aol.com
August 15, 1997

Eugene "Owen" Murnane of Cork

I recently received an obituary from a research librarian in Andover, Mass. The obit was from my grandfather's brother, Daniel, who died in Andover in 1929. From the obituary I discovered something. Fr. O'Donovan told me that Eugene "Owen" Murnane had 2 daughters, Margaret and Johanna. From the obit, it mentions Daniel being survived by 2 sisters in Cork named Helena and Hanna. The obit is correct because their married names were the ones my father said they were. I'm glad I have a copy of the obit, because I would be looking for a Margaret Murnane who was never born to Eugene "Owen" Murnane. Fr. O'Donovan probably just made a mistake.

It's also possible that Father O'Donovan was looking at records of another Eugene Murnane and wife, Johanna. My great-grandparents were Edmond and Johanna -- and I discovered at least three other Edmond and Johanna Murnane marriages in the same part of County Tipperary. That's what makes it all so frustrating sometimes!

Another Ed Murnane from Ireland

I received your email and I am very interested in knowing more about the Murnane name and any associated information. I'm curious to know where you got our email address?

Anyway I will read through your website in detail next weekend when I have more time.

Edward Murnane
(Your the first person other than my father that I've heard of with the same name as me)
procad@indigo.ie
August 15, 1997

As part of our effort to find more Murnanes, we frequently check e-mail directories for names. We found you on Lycos.

Dominic Murnane From West Cork Joins Us

I found your site really interesting and learned a lot about my "distant relations".

I am Dominic Murnane, I am single and will be 33 years old in December 1997. I live in the town of Macroom, County Cork, Ireland. I was originally born in London and came to Ireland when I was six with my parents. My father was Gerard Murnane from Cork, Ireland, who met and married my mother, Dorice Henocq, in England, in 1964. My father died suddenly on the 24th July of last year (1996) (age 59).

His father was James Murnane also from Cork, Ireland, who met and married Josephine "Birdie" O'Reilly, also from Ireland, in New York where she was dancing in a show, "Birdie" being her stage name. As far as I know they returned here to bring up three sons, the eldest Thomas who is still alive in Cork City (age 62), my father Gerard, and the youngest brother James who died quite young (16?)

Unfortunately my mother and I never knew my grandparents. Peter Murnane was a brother of James, and he died some time ago, and there were two sisters Margaret and Anna, both married; unfortunately, apart from Thomas, my mother and I are the last two to bear the Murnane name, as far as I know, in this particular family, as I have no brothers, sisters, nephews or nieces. my 1 uncle (Tommy Murnane) is single and a recluse. There are a number of Murnanes / Marnanes in the telephone directory.

As a matter of interest my grandfather, James Murnane, was one of the first in the Garda Siochana (police) when it was formed, his number being, I believe, 3.

My father did tell me once that James had a son by a previous marriage??? and that he was an explorer who was killed in a rock slide somewhere in South America before W.W.II ??

I was also told 2 stories of some rather unsavoury distant relations of the family but I have forgotten most of the details. One was called the "black bastard of New York" due to his pure black hair, he was a gangster during the prohibition times. The other was Marshall Keiller (Kelleher would be the real name), he was directly under Beria in the Russian Red Army who was involved in building many of the Siberian Gulags. I don't know if these stories are true!!

Murnans of Ireland and Auburn, New York

(Note: This narrative, provided by Pat Mooney, will be added to the "Murnanes in America" section on the second page of the Murnanes of Tipperary, Cork and Limerick Website.)

The Murnan family of Auburn NY emigrated to the US in about 1860. The first emigrants were Daniel and Mary (Donivan) Murnan. They had a son Patrick Murnan, who was about 3 when they arrived in the US. They settled in Auburn, New York where some of the subsequent family remained.

Daniel and Mary had several other children to include: Mary Murnan (Mrs. James H Holmes) who died in early 1920's. She lived in Auburn all her life and married James Holmes, who was a partner in a drygoods store. She was a parishioner of St. Mary's and is buried in St. Joseph's cemetery. Catherine was the wife of Henry O'Hara. They lived in Skaneateles . She died in 1928. There was also another son, Daniel for whom there is no known information.

There is also a Francis Murnan and Fred Murnan who are in the family and may have been sons of Daniel and Mary. Fred Murnan enlisted in the Army in 1917 in Auburn NY ( 27th Division 108th Infantry).

Patrick Murnan , the oldest son, married Ellen Elizabeth Powers about 1873 in Auburn. They had ten children. The births of several of the children of Patrick and Ellen occurred in a number of different and widely separated communities, such as; St. Catherine's , Canada; Auburn, NY, Welland Canada, Kinzua, Pennsylvania; and Olean, NY This wide dispersal was created by the employment of Patrick. He was employed as a construction worker which took him and the family to several projects at the time where he supplied horses, and sometimes work crews. One of the projects was the Welland Canal in Canada and another was the installation of a railroad line through Kinzua, Pennsylvania, The children born in the years 1874 through 1895 included :

The family legend says that while working on the Welland Canal the Murnan name got changed to Mooney. As the story goes, a timekeeper misunderstood Patrick Murnan and listed him as Mooney. Patrick, unable to read , accepted the change rather than acknowledge his deficiency . It is interesting to note that Patrick's father was listed as Mooney on Patrick's death certificate. But this may just be a reasonable thinking on the part of the coroner to assume the father's surname the same as the decedent.

Patrick died in Olean NY in 1908 and his wife, Ellen (Powers) Mooney died a few years later.

Daniel Patrick Mooney settled first in Bradford, Pennsylvania and then in Salamanca NY. He became a Yardmaster on the B&O Railroad, and was followed in the position by his son, Paul. Daniel had several children in addition to Paul, to include Catherine Cecilia, George , Howard, Bernard and Helen. They all grew up in Salamanca and then migrated to locations in Western New York and Texas. Helen (84) and George (93) are still alive and living in Salamanca and Buffalo respectively.

The Mooney family name has been carried on through Paul, whose only son Pat lives in Derwood, Maryland. Pat has five children - Kevin, Kathleen, Patricia, Maureen, and Timothy. The youngest of the Mooney's are Kevin's three young sons- Matthew, Mike, and Kevin Daniel.

Pat is the genealogist in the family and is currently trying to trace Murnan family and other branches. He is diligently trying to locate the County in Ireland from which Daniel and Mary Murnan emigrated from to come to Auburn, NY. Some leads have indicated that they came from Co. Cork, near Schull. Anyone reading this and having any ideas on how to track down Daniel and Mary would be greatly appreciated.

Another Cork Connection ... Now In Texas

Was out surfing and found your info. Really enjoyed it. My maternal grandmother, Margaret Mary was a Murnane before she married Vincent J. McCabe. She was born November 27, 1895? but don't know where. I was raised by my grandparents (both deceased) & sorry to say don't know much about the history or even how to start. I know she was raised in St Joseph's Orphanage in Jersey City, NJ, and lived there til she married my Grandfather.

From somewhere in my memory, I believe her family came from Cork, her father was a blacksmith, she had a younger brother David, but they were separated as children & he died early. Would love to start finding more information but haven't a clue as to where to begin. Anyhow it's nice to know my daughter & I may have cousins out here.

Any Mernin Connections?

In your Murnane research have you run across this spelling (Mernin) of the name. The reason I ask is that I graduated from high school with a Lynn Mernin. We lost track of her and are curious to know what ever happened to her.

Love your website--my family name, Conroy, is only slightly more common than yours and I'm finding it fun searching for new relatives.

Father Seamus Rochford's Request From Emly, Tipperary

Since you have good connections with the Murnane Clan in the U.S., I am trying a 'long shot' in trying to trace a lady who wrote enquiring re: her roots. I do not seem to have an address for her and am finding it very difficult to read her writing.

Her name is Dolores Murnane Leaz but the latter could be Leahy. Reading her letter it appears that she is living in 'So. Dartmouth(?). Mass.'

The name 'Leaz' may not be common and perhaps a phone book for the area might have a reference that would help.

Seamus Rochford, P.P., Emly, County Tipperary.
srochford@tinet.ie
August 1, 1997

I'll be happy to spread the word, both on our website and through e-mail, and I'll make a check in phone books too. We have access to just about all of them.

Anne Murnane - Kraft Connection In Chicago?

Just checking to see if when you did the research for your book or any subsequent research on the Murnanes of Chicago if you ever came up with and Anne Murnane that married a gentleman by the name of Kraft toward the end of the 1800's. Joe and I have recently learned from an .obituary for Ellen Murnane Derning that her sisters married name was Kraft. This would have been the one who went to Chicago from Chateaugay during the 1870's I guess.

Don't recall any Kraft connections, but I'll check in the old files and will share your question with others on our Bulletin Board.

Tipperary Heritage Centers and Locating Townlands

I saw your query in the Tipperary Historical Soc. Mailbox and am interested in finding out how you came to discover the townland in Tipperary that your ancestors came from. I know that there is a "Family Heritage Center " for north and south Tipperary, have you used their services? If you have, what do you think of it? Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated!!

Nice to hear from you. I have not used the Family Heritage Centers in north or south Tipperary, but only because I really didn't need them.

I was very fortunate as I began my search to find actual relatives living in the actual home in which my grandfather had lived. I had a general idea of where to look and was able to make some connections with folks in Tipperary and -- voila -- there they were. They then put me in touch with Cork relatives and we have closed the loop totally, at least going back to my great-grandfather, who was born in 1817. We also know my great-great-grandfather was born sometime around 1770-1780, but our search for more about him has been more difficult. None of his brothers, sisters or kids are around!

Back to the Heritage Centers -- I have heard good things about them, and I would not hesitate to use them if you are searching. Also try the parish priests in the area. Take a look at the Murnane family bulletin board on our site at http://www.murnane.org and you'll see that parish priests can be helpful, although some times it takes awhile.

Do you have any idea of where the family came from? old letters showing return addresses, for example?

Although you're not looking for Murnanes (at least not yet!!), I'll be happy to provide whatever help I can. I can write a much longer description of what I went through (zzzzzz.....), if it will help.

Murnane-Hyland Connection? and Irish Names

I just came across your Web page, and I'm wondering if we're related. Although I'm not a Murnane, my grandfather's sister Margaret Hyland (born in Kilbehanny, Cork in the 1880s) married Ed Murnane in Chicago, and I'm guessing (from the name) that you are relation of his. I'm working on the Hyland genealogy at the moment, soon to put it on the Web, and it will be interesting to link to your site!

I'll be interested in hearing if you are indeed one of those Chicago Murnanes!

It's nice to hear from you. I've already looked at your names page and love it! We'll link to it if it's ok with you.

There is a Hyland connection to our family. Actually, it was MICHAEL Murnane, father of Ed Murnane, who married Margaret Hyland. That Ed Murnane is my late-father (also Ed)'s first cousin. He still lives in the Chicago area and I saw him not too long ago when we had some Murnanes from Ireland in town and he visited.

Of course, Hyland and Murnane are both common Tipperary names, and it is possible that this Murnane-Hyland relationship involves other families entirely, but we'll see if we can confirm this one, with your help.

Tim Murnane's Letter From Fr. O'Donovan in Dromore, Bantry, West Cork

(This is another example of the kind of information parish priests in Ireland are willing to provide in response to inquiries.)

The entry for Michael Murnane, son of Owen and Johanna McCarthy, is for Baptism on 1st November, 1873. Sponsors: Owen Murnane and Ellen Donovan. Priest: Father John Wall.

One problem is that the father's name was first written as "Owen Hourihan" but "Hourihan" was later crossed out and written "Murnane" and an entry by Father P. O'Donovan indicates that on "18th November 1924 Father O'Sullivan, parish priest at Goleen, married Michael Murnane to Ellen Lucey of Ratoora, Schull West."

Perhaps this is a mistake, and should have been written about some other Michael Murnane.

Patrick was born in June, 1871;
Tim in November, 1875;
Eugene in November, 1868.

Between 1868 and 1895, there were 32 Murnane children born to seven different Murnane families in this parish.

Also, John, son of Owen Murnane and Johanna McCarthy, born 17 January 1858 Gortatagart; Margaret, daughter of Owen and Johanna McCarthy, born 18 January 1858, Gortatagart; Dan, son of Owen and Johanna McCarthy, born 21 November, 1862, Colmane; Johanna, daughter of Owen and Johanna McCarthy, born 16 November, 1864 Denis, son of Owen and Johanna McCarthy, born 13 November, 1866.

Father Wall, who came after 1862, did not write in the address. Gortatagart is almost part of Colmane.

Tim comments: My grandfather, Michael, did marry Ellen Lucey when he was 51; it looks like a mistake due to his age, but I have the marriage certificate and it proves the records are correct.

New Connery Connection and Information

Well, I've finally done it -- put up my own page. It is very preliminary right now since I am such an amateur. I have a lot of work to do to make it good. I'd like it to be a place to share some of the research my Mom did and maybe learn more. Do you mind if I link to you regarding the Connery info?

Site address is: http://www.avana.net/~mhook/index.htm -- hope you'll visit; any suggestions for improvement are most welcome. I'll be adding lots more (I hope) as I get the time. BTW, I noticed a Cornelius Murnane on my Templenoe, Kenmare, Kerry Griffith's page. You Murnane's got around.

Charlene Murnane Wagner Hears From Tipperary Parish Priest

(Note: Charlene Murnane Wagner of Tinley Park, Illinois, contacted Father Seamus Rochford, the parish priest in the parish of Emly, County Tipperary, in search of information about her Murnane connections and her Ryan connections. The reply she received is included here because it shows the kind of information that can be obtained from parish priests in Ireland.)

Many thanks for your enquiry. Please excuse my delay in answering. Many enquiries come and I like to give time to research. I must also confess that when I see the name Ryan I am tempted to put that enquiry to the bottom of the pile. There are a large number of Ryan families in this area and many of the Christian names are the same.

This is the information available from our records on the family of James Murnane and Johanna Ryan.

The Murnane Family lived in the townland of Drumcamogue. The civil census of 1850 shows two Murnane families in this area. It seems that your family was evicted from their land by the landlord (possibly 1 July 1884 when a number of evictions took place). This was a common occurrence at this time and led to much -ration.

Local information tells me that the Family were then given a field owned by a Ryan Family in the townland of Ballinvrina, a short distance away from their farm. They built a shack on the land and later the neighbours gathered, drew stones from a local quarry and built a stone house on the site The field is still known as "Murnane's field."

The last of the Murnanes to live in this house was James. He never married and before his death returned ownership of the field to the Ryan family who still live on the original farm. The Murnane Family are buried in the parish of Hospital, County Limerick which is just a few miles from here.

Another brother, John, lived just outside the parish in the townland of Ballincroona.

The present occupant of this Firm, James Ryan, tells me that there was some relationship between the Ryan Family and the Murnanes though he cannot trace it. This sets me on the trail of Johanna Ryan.

The name 'Ryan' is very common in this part of Ireland and in my records we have a number with the Christian name 'Johanna'. In the townland of Ballinvrina (a narrow passage one mile long) in 1850 there were 17 families and 7 of these were Ryans. Yesterday, there were 3 homes but with the death of Pat Quane last night we are left with 2.

It is hard to be sure who Johanna Ryan was but I have a record of a Johanna Ryan, of Ballinvrina, being baptised in Emly Church on the12th February 1840. Her parents were Patrick Ryan and Mary Loughnane. This could be our Johanna but more research would be needed on this.

Some final comments. When I speak of a townland I am referring to a very small area of land --sometimes just a few houses. All the townlands I mention in the above are contained in one square mile.

I understand that a number of years ago a Howard Murnane of Chicago, visited the Ryan farm making similar enquiries to your own.

I hope the above is of interest to you. As I indicated if you ever wished to visit here the very places your people lived in can be seen. A little corner of their house still exists.

More Information On West Cork Murnanes

I noticed your entry on Murnane's Bulletin Board regarding your connections to Murnane relatives in Bantry.

You see, my grandfather, Michael E. Murnane ( 1873-1936 ) was born to a Owen Murnane and Johanna Mc Carthy in Gortorgart ( part of Colomane ), Caheragh. Colomane is on the main road from Bantry to Drimoleague, about 5 or 6 miles from the town of Bantry itself. They were in the parish of Caheragh and all the children were baptized in the R.C. church of Killenleigh ( which is nothing but ruins now ).

I'm trying to find out who Owen's brothers/sisters might have been. My father was born in Skibbereen and was 5 years old when his father died. He has no information about his grandfather, Owen Murnane. If you or our sister have done any family research, I would like to know if Owen might have been part of the family.

My sister Maureen tells me that she perused the records dating back to 1833 and.....

Tim Murnane married Peg McCarthy in 1833 and their first child was born in 1833 and named Mary, and then 1835 a Nora, 1837 Joan, 1841 Dennis.

In 1842 Tim Murnane ( the ruffian) married Mary Donavan and had two children Dan in 1842 and Pat in 1844.

In 1851 Tim Murnane ( a triple) married Nora Duggan and borne Joan 1852, 1854 Kate , 1856 John, 1859 Nora, 1861 Michael, 1863 Daniel ( our Grandfather), 1867 Tim , 1872 Con.

All of the above information was obtained at the parish church in Durris.The children of Tim's first marriage , my sister was told, changed their name to Warren and immigrated to Philadelphia in the 1860's.The grand-daughter of John Murnane( third marriage) has done extensive research on the family tree and I will attempt to get that information.

John J. Daly
McLean, Va. (Formerly of the Bronx ( East 141st and Cypress Ave.) St Luke's Parish.
jjdaly@leggmason.com

A Kelley/Kelly Visitor To Our Site

Even though I am not a Murnane I enjoyed your web site very much. I am searching Kelley/Kelly and you are invited to visit my web site..

Murnanes of Letterlickey East, Bantry, County Cork

You have just found another Murnane clan! My mother's name was Kate Murnane, daughter of Ellen Sullivan and Daniel Murnane (Letterlickey East, Bantry, Co Cork ). Many of our relatives still live in the Bantry area and we are in touch with them.

My sister has made an extensive study of our Murnane ancestors going back to the early 1800's at the local RC church in Ireland( Durris). At least one of the Letterlickey Murnane's settled in Chicago.

Michael Murnane of Caherconlish, County Limerick

Looking to find any relatives of Michael Murnane from Caherconlish, County Limerick, Ireland. If you are familiar with this person, or anyone related to him, I would appreciate a response. It is a strong possibility that Michael Murnane is now dead as I expect he was alive in the early 1900s.

Daniel Murnan of Schull

You mentioned you have relatives in Ireland. I would be interested if any of them ever heard of Daniel Murnan who came to US about 1850. I have been told he may have come from Schull.

I believe Schull is in western Cork,near Skibbereen, and there are a lot of Murnanes from that area. Not only will we put this latest inquiry on our bulletin board but I'll forward it to some of the Murnane researchers who are very interested in Cork. And I'll ask some of my own cousins over there.

I am not sure if my Murnane is of any relation or help. I have a Patrick Murnane who married Margaret Mahar (Maher) on 5/18/1883 in Providence, RI.

Any information you may be able to provide as to his birth or parents I would appreciate.

On Oct 1 1906? (date missing from article) an article was published in The Observer Newspaper of Hoboken, N.J. on James Murnane an his wife Honora of 122 Grand Street Hoboken, N.J. The article was mainly about their triplets and what a surprise they had been. Especially since they already had 9 children. (5 single children, and 2 sets of twins.)

The article went on to say that Honora was 34 years old and that James worked for the Lackawana Railroad. My Brother Bob and I are trying to connect with descendants of this family to share information. James Murnane was born on July 27, 1868 in Gibbingsgrove, Milford, Cork, Ireland. His father's name was Michael Murnane and mother was Ellena Boyce. Our Grandfather John Murnane was his brother.

Nice job on the update of the Bulletin Board. I will share the information with my brother Joe next weekend when we get together in Utica, NY. I have not had time to read all the new material yet, but from what I have seen it sure will help meny of those searching for Murnane's.

For your information, some of the other families that Joe and I are researching are the Kelly's and Mulligans (My mothers family), the Metzlers, (My Grandmother on the Murnane side of the family). If you come accross any family connections with either of these families, they may fit into our tree.

A suggestion: Would it be possible to date the individual materials as they are placed on the Bulletin Board? That would make it possible for individuals to just review the updated materials if they were short of time.

Dating is a great suggestion, consider it done beginning with your message. We won't go back to re-do the others, but from now on, we'll add the date that the message is added to our Bulletin Board.

I am searching for my g-g-g grandfather, Dan Murnan, who married Mary Donivan. They emmigrated to US with son Patrick about 1850. They settled in Auburn NY. Some of their children stayed in Auburn area, and some left the area for work on Welland Canal (Canada) and Kinzua Dam in Pennsylvania.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to find out where they emmigrated from in Ireland.

I have great news. When I arrived home last evening, I had received a letter from Rev. Michael O'Donovan, P.P. of Caheragh parish. He answered my letter. I found out that my grandfather, Michael E. Murnane was 1 of 9 children. Fr. O'Donovan also listed the 8 other childrens names and dates of birth. That was nice of him.

I also found out that their were 32 Murnane children baptized in this parish between 1868 and 1895 to seven different Murnane families.

Now I need to find out what happened to the brothers/sisters of my grandfather and where their children are. I hope to make that connection through your web page.

I've been looking for a page as nice as yours since December. That is the finest example of a "name" page that I have yet seen for a less common name. I will post it up there tonight.

I assume that you'll have no objections, but I would like to use it also as an example of a nice, clean, simple, well organized, interesting, funny (I like your infusion of a little levity now and then; I got that from my Mom).

You obviously suffer from the same problem I do. You can make a decent page but don't have the foggiest idea how to publicize it. <g> I look a lot for new pages, but I have never seen yours before.

And if you have anything you have written, about family, research, Ireland, or whatever, Ida Troye, editor of The Septs and I would be very interested in looking at it either for The Septs or for the Home Page.

At this time I do not know too much about my Minnesota Murnanes because Mayme Murnane Byrne was my stepgrandmother. Her sister Helen was my sister's godmother and her sister Anne was my godmother. Neither sister ever married.

My uncle Joe Byrne started researching the Murnanes shortly before his memory started failing and he died last spring. I have all his research on the Byrnes, since I took over his part in the research for the Coopers from England to help finish that up for a book that is now being published in Australia. I won't have too much time to work on my Murnanes until after the global family reunion for the Coopers in the fall of 1997. At that time I will again be working on that part of my family.

Meanwhile, I did want to at least let you know that I am out here. I have already had contact with Tim Murnane and he has a copy of that part of my tree (as much as I know so far.).

Thanks for getting in touch. We'll be happy to learn anything you can share about your branch of the Murnanes; perhaps you'll find something here that is helpful to you, too.

I am Tim Murnane from Haverstraw, NY. My claim to fame is being Joe Murnane's brother whom you have been communicating with for a number of years. I just wanted to compliment you on the great Web site. I have spent the last hour and a half reviewing it and haven't got half way through. It is a great addition to the Web, and will be great for Murnanes to develop contacts in pursuit of family Genealogy.

I have asked Joe to send you an updated printout, or possibly the family Tree Maker disk of current Murnane chart from upstate NY.

My name is Dennis Day and I live in Madison, WI. My great-great-grandmother was named Johanna Mernane (Murnan, Mernan--variously spelled in my records). She was born somewhere in Ireland around 1818 in the month of April (give or take a year or two--again the records are not consistent). She married a Darby O'Dea (date and place unknown) and had two children while still living in Ireland--Ellen and Mary. After arriving in New York in May 1848, she delivered another son, John, in New York. They then moved to Minden Twp in New York where they had a second son, James. After moving to Henry, Illinois (and other places in this area--ending up in Camp Grove), they had Jeremiah, margaret and Johanna. (I have complete birth, death and marriage dates for their children.)

I am interested in trying to locate the Murnanes in Ireland (no luck as yet with finding the O'Deas). I have received information from the Heritage Center at Cashel that there was a Johanna Marnane who was born around April 1817, but I have no other details as yet.

Do you see any connections here? The O'Deas probably came from eastern Clare, perhaps within a few miles of Tipperary. If you have any further information or can direct me, I would greatly appreciate it.

I just found out that my great grandmother was not Johanna ( nee Spillane). Here name was Johanna ( nee Mc Carthy ).

A while back I sent you an email, you posted it on the Bulletin Board. I would like for you to somehow change it or make a reference to this one.

Once again, my great grandfather Owen Murnane married Johanna Mc Carthy. I do not have any dates, but it was probably around the late 1850' or earlier 1860's.

First time I have seen the page in color with maps and all. Just made an adjustment and it all came in view. Looks real good. Like that tie in with the county historical organization in Tip. Can you find one for Limerick?

Nice to meet you electronically. I am keen to be on your mailing list, and spend lots of time thinking about Murnane business, but precious little time actually DOING anything useful. Our particular group are a reasonably interesting mob, with lots of misery and poverty and things that invoke compassion and admiration several generations further down the track.

My great grandfather Michael Murnane, who came here as a teenager with his father Jeremiah around 1852, married a girl named Margaret Kinnane, from the same area in Ireland (Caherelly East). She came here as a young girl to be a servant, and was remarkable in that she insisted that all her children, including numerous girls, complete their secondary schooling and have careers. She herself was a hedgerow child, educated to some basic level behind the hedges, because of the persecution of Catholics at that time. Interestingly perhaps, the next several generations of Murnanes and co. have numerous academics and very successful businessmen etc, so maybe that is the legacy of Margaret Kinnane. I want to find out more about her though.

Anyway, if you ever have cause to visit Tasteful Tassie, we would love to see you and show you the sights, and talk Murnanery as well.

Dr Anthony J Crawford
Associate Professor of Geology
Deputy-Director, SRC for Ore Deposit Research
University of Tasmania
GPO Box 252-79
Hobart,Tasmania
AUSTRALIA 7001
Tony.Crawford@geol.utas.edu.au

I was wondering if you would like some parish maps on your web site. I have parish maps for West Cork.

Yep, We'll take anything (well, almost...) and include it if it helps, and parish maps will.

Is there a way to show the generations page by page similar to how they are displayed on the website?

I'm not sure I know how to answer your question. I guess it depends to some extent the kind of computer and software you have. I am able to print any page simply by using the print function on the computer.

The information on families on the website is presented in a variety of ways. For example, the pages on your family (Cappamore to Columbus, Ohio) has been manually entered (by me). Terry provided the information but it was in a text file that did not convert to genealogical format so I had to put it in page by page. (That's one of the reasons why there have been some mistakes, which we are trying to correct as they are called to my attention.)

If you look at the "Murnanes of Cappauniac, County Tipperary" section -- and it has been updated as of Thursday, you will see there are several different presentations. The first -- which I am calling Family Tree Pages -- was manually entered, as was the case with your clan.

The second presentation -- Outline Family Tree -- is the result of having all of the data in a program (I use Family Tree Maker) and converting it to an HTML format. We take a roundabout way to do this -- I have a second webpage on Family Tree Maker which allows this kind of format and we then copy it back to the Murnanes website.

The third and fourth presentations, which are both indexes (indices, I guess) are developed from Family Tree Maker to a GEDCOM file, and then converted to HTML through a program called GED2HTML, which I have purchased.

Actually, it all sounds more complicated than it really is. The most complicated aspect is manually entering the data since I am not familiar with all of the names and connections in families other than my own.

Your Murnane clan did the same thing mine did -- it picked a few names (Thomas, James, etc.) and used them for everyone. That complicates things.

Anyway, I don't know if this helps you or not. As a final solution, I would be happy to print out pages and FAX them to you, if that helps.

If there are more technically-advanced questions, let me know and I'll try to get answers. My technical skills are limited.

I like the new page. The new map looks much better than the original. However last evening I had the page on with Netscape and the background color made some of the printing almost impossible to read. They seem to blend in together.

I have just received a note from Joanne Grinstead showing the date of death of Bridget Kirby as 2/2/1874 and being age 43 at the time of death. This would have made her age 43. This information is from a copy of the death certificate she has just obtained. The previous information was taken from the grave stone in the cemetery.

Thanks for the update on the pages. I have been continuing some research here and thought I would share some of it with you, at least the part that deals with the Murnanes.

As I mentioned previously, I am looking for my great-great-grandparents (Darby O'Dea and Johanna Mernane) who left Ireland in 1848. Lacking confirming church records, I have turned to Griffith's Valuation (1848-1854) to see if I can find evidence of the families they left behind. Thusfar, this is what I have found.

I have looked through all of the Counties for common spellings of the Murnane name and cross-referencing them with the O'Deas. In Griffith's Valuation, these surnames are listed by Baronies first of all, and then by Parish within the Barony. I have only completed the Parish data for County Clare, but hope to do so for Tipperary and perhaps Limerick as well. Further research will yield the given name of the person who was taxed (usually a male) for each family listed.

The Murnanes are indeed concentrated in southwest Ireland, with the greatest concentrations on either side of the Shannon estuary. Perhaps you will need eventually to add Clare to the title page as well. :-)

Wow! Thanks for the major contribution. And County Clare is not a bad place!!

I am the eldest of seven Murnane children and am living in Dublin. My father is Terence, born in April 1926 and my mother is Frances.I have five sisters and one brother. All are married and my brother is getting married to Sandra at the end of June, 1997.

My father is Terence from Caherconlish, Co. Limerick and is one of four children. His parents were Nora and John Murnane. He has one brother - Michael who is still living there, who is married to Bridget and they have four children - 3 daughters and one son - John.

My father has two sisters - Mary is living in Dublin and married to James and they have four children. Kitty married to Frank and they have four children.

I am Robert (Bob) Murnane, (of Tinley Park, Illinois) son of Thomas F. Murnane, who was the son of James and Mary Ellen Delaney Murnane. Also I am the brother of Charlene Murnane Wagner. I am married to Lynn Marie Murnane. I have three daughters, twins Kara Lynn and Kelly Marie (11 years) and Kimberly Nicole (7 years).

I'm wondering if you can help me. I have found out what church my grandfather was baptized in. What I need to do is to contact the local parish priest of the parish. Do you know how I can go about this ?

The church is in the diocese of Cork, the parish is Caheragh in West Cork. I am planning a trip to Ireland in 1998, but I would like to make the contact with the priest before my arrival.

Here's a thought: One of my cousins from County Cork (Eddie Marnane) is going to be visiting me in Chicago from May 10-17. He is the former Secretary of the Cork County Council (a job similar to a County Clerk here is the states). I will ask him to get the name of the priest and we'll forward it to you. Because of his (my cousin's) knowledge of County Cork (and he and his wife have a summer place in West Cork), he may already know who the priest is and he may be able to cut through some other red tape.

I maintain e-mail contact with Eddie's son, Liam, who is on the faculty at University College in Cork, and he will e-mail any information to me right away.

Send me your grandfather's name (actually, I probably have it???) and I'll get to work on it right away.

And let me know if there is anything else we can do to help. I have a lot of relatives in Cork and Tipperary and they are very willing to help any of the "Yank" Murnanes.

Hello! I am so pleased that there is someone researching the Murnane family. My husband has done some research with the family tree and has discovered that his lineage is from County Cork and the original group to come to America came to Columbus Ohio about 1840. He hasn't looked at your web page yet, but he is excited to see what connections may be with the information that you have. We look forward to chatting with you.

Yvonne Murnane
Green Bay, Wisconsin

So, wonderful to here there is a "Murnane Web Site"! I am passing along the website address to all the Murnane's in this area who have Internet access.

I am the wife of Michael Rowe Murnane, son of John Eugene Murnane, Jr., son John Eugene Murnane, Sr. This Murnane family is from Bayonne, NJ. We have an uncle who is the family historian who also travels to Ireland and such to gather more information on the 'Murnanes'. I will gladly put him in touch with you--but it will have to be by phone because he doesn't log onto the Internet. This uncle is Owen Murnane, who now lives in Philadelphia, PA (you may have/not already talked to him in your ventures).

This John E. Murnane, Jr. is the 1st of four children to Murnane, Sr. The other children are Frederick, Owen, and Margaret. John Jr. (alias Jack) is father to (5) children: John III, Timothy, Michael, Elizabeth, and Christopher. This family settled in Springfield, VA. Frederick (AKA Fred) is father to (4) children Frederick Jr., Melissa, Tereasa, and Patricia. This family settled in Manasquan, NJ. Owen is father to (7): Owen, Daniel, Colleen (passed away at 18), Megan, Dennis, Patrick, and Mary. This family settled in Moorestown, NJ. Margaret married Anthony Cortese and they have (3) children: Megan, Michael, and Peter. This family settled in Warren, NJ but has since moved to Manasquan, NJ. Note: The settlement locations are where the original (4) children of John Sr. reside.

We have many family reunions and cousins are as close as brothers and sisters. I am proud to say I've been dubbed an 'honorary Murnane cousin'. We have included in our reunions a Murnane family in the Annapolis, MD area who is related to Chicago Murnanes. Interesting eh?!. PS - MIL says she thinks we our history stems from the Tipperary Marnanes.

This should be enough for now. I wait to hear back from you on how Owen Murnane can contact you. I've been told he is heading to Ireland again soon.

Thanks for the email regarding your research and web page. I found it to be very professional and informative.

I've been doing research on my family and so has my cousin. We have traced our Murnanes back to the 1850's. Our Murnanes are from West Cork.

I live in New Jersey, my cousin lives in Washington and my father has relatives in Andover Massachusetts.

Thanks for the invitation and the message. Being a bit old-fashioned, I am not "on the web" but I do now people that are so I shall trouble them to check the page.

Sounds like a lot of fun but I don't know how you found hundreds of Murnanes!

Various members of our family have worked on the history of our branch, and we have it traced from Thomas Murnane born in 1802 in Cappamore Co. Limerick. He married Bridget Kirby, born in 1821, and they had 11 children. I will try to attach the file I have in Microsoft word, but I am not sure if that works on email. Can you send formatted text? It lists most of the names and dates we have. Maybe we're connected by someone on this list.

Third child of fifth child of first child of sixth [Thomas J. Murnane] of Thomas & Bridget).

Ed
I sent you an e-mail in response to your note regarding your new home page which I think is great. This is an update to what I sent you this morning.

I am

William Michael Murnane Jr. (Called Mike)

Married

Florence G. Braun (November 9th, 1963)

Born

April 13th, 1936

Devils Lake, No Dakota

Children

Michele (Jan 21st, 1966)

Mark (June 2nd, 1967)

Maria (March 16th, 1969)

Monica (August 11th, 1970)

Father

William Michael Murnane

Born Nov. 17th, 1895

Duluth, Minnesota

Died April 8th, 1967 (Los Gatos, CA)

Mother Isabella O’Shannessy --- 1858

Father Patrick Murnane --- 1857

The main reason ( am sending you this update) is because I have included my children and you will note that I have a daughter named Maria. Maria was a student at Northwestern a couple of years ago when she heard you speak and actually met you. She said you were really into the Murnane Family History and had published a book on the subject and had given her a copy which she still has. So when I mentioned to her about you e-mail she told me she had met you. How about that.

I don't know very much about my family's connections to Ireland, but I would like to. My father never talked about his dad or family, so I know very little.

My dad's name is Thomas Patrick Murnane. He was born in Nebraska around 1920's. I don't know when he moved to South Dakota, but that is where I was born and raised from 1951 - 1969.

I have never come across another Murnane socially, especially in South Dakota. We pronounce our name "mer-nan" and literally cringe when someone naturally goes for the long "a" (-ane) sound.

Again, thanks for the notice. I checked out the web site and it looks great. Nice job.

Thanks for your mail. I believe that you have talked with my father (Joseph R. Murnane of Williamson, NY) who also makes a hobby of researching the Murnanes.

I am just about finished with my M.B.A here at Cornell. I have a B.S. in Optics from the University of Rochester ('91) and an M.S. in Electrical Engineering from the University of New Mexico ('95). I have worked as an optical manufacturing engineer at Tropel, Inc. (Rochester, NY) and as an analyst at Lockheed Martin. After graduating Cornell this May, my wife Renee and I will be moving to Burlington, VT where I will work for IBM's Microelectronics Division as a financial analyst.

Renee's career is in healthcare management; she has spent the last two years running multiple multi-specialty medical practices at SUNY Health Science Center in Syracuse, NY. She hopes to continue this type of work in Burlington.

I look forward to checking out your web page. I'm sure my dad would enjoy it, but he first needs to upgrade from his Apple IIe that he bought fifteen years ago!

To give you just a quick idea of my family I was born in England in 1936 of an American Mother from Cedar Lake, Indiana and an English Father from London. Several of my Father's aunts and uncles did immigrate to Canada and my folks keep in touch. I did have a great uncle who tried to trace the family tree, spent a long time at it and then suddenly stopped and would never talk about it again! My wife and I came to California in 1963 and were the first and only members of our family to move here.

Our elder daughter did meet up with a girl who had married a Murnane while she was going to UC Davis, near Sacramento, but this young lady was not interested in the common name.

Our younger daughter was a flight attendant with Pan Am and once had a FAA check by an inspector by the name of Murnane. We only had two girls so I'm afraid the name will end with me on this branch of the tree.

My folks now live in Denver and my mother has been working on a family tree so I shall get more information from her.

We have a business in Florida in the Fort Lauderdale area and once, when I was at a paint store, I was asked if I was a relation of Father Murnane, as far as I know I am not. I have not had a chance to find Father Murnane but I shall try as soon as I get a chance. There was a furniture store in Coral Springs Florida by the name Murnane Furniture but the last time we drove down that road I did not see it so perhaps they are gone. That happens in Florida.

I understand that our family reached England by way of France but I do not know dates. I'll have to ask my Dad if he can shed some light on that. He is 95 and still quite sharp but his eyesight is very, very poor. My Mother is 92 and does not hear well so they hold hands when they cross the street!

I'm Tristrim, 23 years old, doing a comp-sci uni course down here in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. I have a sister called Tafline and a brother named Tarquin. They are also doing Higher Education courses.

My father is John Murnane, and Mother is Trish Andarsan. Dad works at Melbourne University with some email address which I don't have now :) Hope this can help a bit.

I wanted to give you some information on my family. I, Timothy Francis Murnane was born on 7/4/71 in Flushing, N.Y.. I am the oldest of 3 children. I have 2 sisters, Colleen (b. 1973) and Eileen (b.1974).

Both are still not married. My father John Finbarr Murnane was born on 7/2/31 and lived in Forenaught, Castlehaven, Skibbereen, Cork. My father came to N.Y. in 1961. He married my mother, Maureen (nee Flanagan) on 6/5/65. Right now, my father and I live in Rockaway, N.J.

My father was 1 of 3 as well. The oldest, Eugene (b. 1927) lives in Seattle, Washington. He is married and has 5 children, 1 boy and 4 girls. His oldest is now 32 and his name is Michael.

My father's 2nd oldest brother, Timothy Francis Murnane (b.1929) (d. 1963). He was killed on the farm and is buried in the Abbey cemetery in Skibbereen overlooking the Ilen River.

My grandfather, Michael Eugene Murnane was born in 1881. He was born in Colemane, Caheragh, Skibbereen, Cork. His parents were Owen Murnane and Johanna (nee Spillane). He had numerous brothers and sisters. This is where the Murnane connections were broken. My grandfather's only brother that we/I know about is Patrick (1879). Patrick came to Boston as well as my grandfather.

I have spoken to Patrick's youngest and only living son, John, on the phone. He tolde stories about his father and my grandfather. John lives in Andover, Mass. and has one son, Mike. John's nephew, Charles lives down the street. My father also has old photo's of his uncle Pat and his 3 cousins, Charlie, Eugene and John.

In 1924, my grandfather married Ellen (nee Lucey). My grandfather died in 1936 and is buried in Caheragh cemetery. My grandmother died in 1964 and is buried with my uncle in the Abbey. My grandfather had other brothers and that is what I hope to find out from your page.

I was looking at your updated Web Page and I noticed something that made me write to you. I noticed an entry by Owen D. Murnane of Moorestown, N.J. He speaks of his grandfather, Daniel Murnane ( 1871-1935 ) from Cork , coming to the U.S. with a few brothers ( Denis, John and Eugene ). Did Owen mention where they were from in Cork ? My grandfather, Michael Murnane, had many brothers and I think that Owen's grandfather is one of them. I think I need to get in touch with Owen and discuss this further. Do you have an address of some sort in which I can write him?

I know for a fact that the time period in which Owen's grandfather and his grandfathers brothers came to the U.S. is key here, even the date of his grandfathers birth. My grandfather was the baby and was born in 1881. He came to the U.S. in 1898 to live with his brother, Patrick (b. 1879), who lived in Andover, Mass. My great-grandfather was named Owen Murnane as well. The only discrepancy I see is that my great-grandmother's name was Johanna (nee Spillane).

Owen of Moorestown mentions his great-grandmother was Ellen (nee Holland) ????

Hello - My GGrandfather James Patrick Connery's brother Michael Morgan Connery (b. 1862) married Mary Murnane (b. 1870). Descendants are still living in the Chicago area. I don't know anything about Murnanes, but Connerys came from Ashgrove, Bansha, County Tipperary in 1852 to Warwick, RI; then to Chicago. Family Tree Maker Vol. 3, Tree No. 4297 has some info about these families on it. I don't know who compiled it.

Hello,
My name is Joanne Elizabeth Cochran Grinstead. My mother's name was Grace Dorothy Murnane daughter of James Aloyisus Murnane and Grace Gregg Murnane James fathers name was Thomas Murnane married a Bridget Kirby in Ireland in Doone Parish Limerick Ire.

I am interested in finding out more about Thomas and Bridget Murnane. They are buried here at Mount Calvary cemetery in Columbus Ohio. Have dates of births and their deaths. All of their children. Joe and Rose Murnane here in Galloway Ohio have this info also.

Just wanted you to know there are ones in Ohio doing research on the Murnane Family. My mother said also their were many spellings of Murnane. Murnan, Moran. Whatever immigration heard.

Hi,
Am happy to hear that there is so much research on the Net concerning the Murnanes. My information has a slight twist, but I'm sure there is a connection. When five brothers emigrated to the U.S., they changed their name to "Warren." (Warren is the English equivalent of the Gaelic Murnane; thus the reason for choosing it).

They did this due to involvement in the Political situation at the time and wanted to remain anonymous. Have you heard from anyone else in the Murnane family who did this? If so, we are certainly related. Three brothers came to Dyersville, IA, one to Mass and on to Rhode Island, and one eventually ended up in Dunkirk, NY. They were blacksmiths from County Cork. The name NOONAN also shows up - is there any connection there to anyone???

I will share all this with you in the future. Right now, family matters prevent me from spending the time, but I look forward to doing so. Thanks again, for contacting me.

There are 6 of us here in Palo Alto, California. Mike, Flo, Michele, Mark, Maria & Monica Murnane. Nice to see we are not alone!

Did you ever think of starting a Murnane/Marnane mailing list ? Just a thought.

Have enjoyed reading the Murnane website. On the Marnanes of Cork page, Edward James Marnane's birthdate is probably not right. It is probably off by 100 years (1889 instead of 1989) since he died before he was born.

Can't wait to read about the Murnane's of Ohio. You have probably been in touch with my parents regarding their contribution to the clan.

Hi Ed. I took a look at your website and it looks great!. My twin brother William and I have been doing research on our Murnane connections for awhile now. My grandfather on my mother's side John Murnane was born in Farthingville, County Cork, Ireland. His brother's and sister came to New York about 1888. We have some information about the family if you would like it, let me know. We are all descended from my great-grandfather Michael Murnane and his wife Ellen Boyce, they were also related to some members of a DUANE family all from County Cork. My brother and I are always willing to share any of our genealogical information and give help to anyone who need it.

Hi Matt,

Thanks for forwarding that info on Murnane. Funny, it was just last Wednesday that I found the ship's log record of Dennis Harrigan and Margaret Murnane. They arrived with Michael (7), Patt(3), and Denis(inf.) from Liverpool at New York on 12 Jan 1852 on the good ship Rip Van Winkle. Denis and Margaret are both shown as 30 yrs.

Hi Ed,
Guess by now you know I'm Matt Wilde's uncle. Did you get the cc of my reply to Matt?

Margaret Murnane must have been born about 1822 according to the ship's log. They had a son John in 1844 who died about 1851 before they left Ireland. They had a second son named John in the States in 1852.

Denis Sr.'s father was named Michael. He and Catherine Laffan were married in 1806 by the "parish priest of Temple Braden" probably somewhere in Co. Limerick.

Hi!
I am Charlene Murnane Wagner, daughter of Thomas Murnane who was the son of James and Mary Ellen Delaney Murnane. My Aunt Bernice, wife of John B.Murnane, gave information to you for your book. I am married to Ronald L. Wagner and I have seven children: Ronald B.(24), Therese (Bryan Skalnik -two children: Katelynn and Thomas), Robert, Christina, Amanda, Sandra, and Lindsay.

I also lost my dad in 1989, on May 20. I have been most curious about my grandmother, Mary Ellen Delaney, and where she and James were married. I do not know when she came from Ireland nor anything about the family she left behind. I know she had two sisters that came to America ,Agnes and Julia. Julia had two boys, George and Robert Kane. Both are dead and Georges children settled in Northern Wisconsin. I also read on your site that my great grandmother, Johanna Ryan and James Murnane were married. Do you know anything about Johanna's heritage? Unfortunately, our death certificates have incorrect information. Please update me.

Just a word about my dad and his deceased brothers, Joe, Jim, Jack, Bill, and Leo ,they had an unusual sense of humor. They would give great parties where beer flowed freely.

When you would ask them about family history, they would tell you things like maybe our parents weren't married. My grandmother, Mary Ellen, was the Third Order of St.Francis so I don't think that was true. They were from Our Lady Of Solace parish in Chicago and they lived on 48th and Union. She might have left up to 9 brothers in Ireland who worked on the railroad. Again my information came from six wild and crazy guys so I don't know how much is true.

My mother wants to go to Ireland for my 50th birthday next year so maybe I can have my family tree more together by then. Please let me hear from you soon.

County Clare--total of 50 families
	Barony of Burren
		Parish of Carran
			Maranan	1 family
	Barony of Inchiquin
		Parish of Killinaboy
			Maranan	1 family
		Parish of Inagh
			Marinen	1 family
	Barony of Ibrickan
		Parish of Kilfarboy
			Marinan	1 family
			Marnane	3 families
			Marnon	1 family
			Marrinan	5 families
		Parish of Killard
			Marinan	1 family
			Marnon	1 family
		Parish of Kilmurray
			Marrinan	1 family
	Barony of Moyarta
		Parish of Kilfearagh
			Marinan	8 Families
			Marnan	3 families
			Marrinan	2 families
		Parish of Kilmacduane
			Marrinan	1 family
	Barony of Corcomroe
		Parish of Clooney
			Marinan	6 Families
			Marrinen	4 families
	Barony of Clonderlaw
		Parish of Killadysert
			Marnon	2 Families
	Barony of Bunratty Lower
		Parish of Feenagh
			Marrinan	1 family
		Parish of Bunratty
			Marnane	1 family
		Parish of Clonloghan
			Murnane	1 family
	Barony of Tulla Lower
		Parish of Clonlea
			Marrinan	1 family
		Parish of Kiltenanlea
			Mornane	3 families
			Murnane	1 family

County Tipperary (NR and SR) --- total of 45 families
	Barony of Owne & Arra
		Marnane	1 Family
		Murnane	13 Families
	Barony of Ormond Upper
		Murnane	1 Family
	Barony of Kilnamanagh
		Murnane	1 Family
		Marnane	1 Family
	Barony of Middlethird
		Marnane	2 Families
		Murnane	1 Family
	Barony of Clanwilliam
		Marnane	1 Family
		Murnane	11 Families
		Mournane	6 Families
		Murnane	7 Families

County Limerick --- total of 33 families
	Barony of Coonagh
		Marnane	1 Family
		Murnane	7 Families
	Barony of Limerick C.
		Mornane	1 Family
	Barony of Owneybeg
		Murnane	2 Families
	Barony of Clanwilliam
		Murnane	13 Families
	Barony of Connello Upper
		Murnane	1 Family
	Barony of Coshma
		Murnane	1 Family
	Barony of Kilmallock
		Murnane	1 Family
	Barony of Coahlea
		Murnane	6 Families

County Down --- total of 25 families
	Barony of Lecale Upper
		Murnan	4 Families
	Barony of Iveagh Upper Lower Half
		Murnan	17 Families
	Barony of Ards Upper
		Murnane	1 Family
	Barony of Kinelarty
		Murnane	1 Family
	Barony of Mourne
		Murnane	2 Families

County Cork --- total of 24 families
	Barony of Bear
		Marinane	1 Family
		Murnane	1 Family
	Barony of E. Car. W.D.
		Marinane	1 Family
		Marnane	1 Family
		Murnane	7 Families
	Barony of E. Car. E.D.
		Murnane	1 Family
	Barony of W. Car. W.D.
		Marnane	3 Families
	Barony of W. Car. E.D.
		Marnane	1 Family
	Barony of Bantry
		Murnane	3 Families
	Barony of Kerrycurrihy
		Murnane	1 Family
	Barony of Kinalea
		Murnane	1 Family

County Kerry --- total of 15 families
	Barony of Corkaguiney
		Murnane	3 Families
	Barony of Maguniby
		Murnane	3 Families
	Barony of Dunkerron S.
		Murnane	3 Families
	Barony of Glanavought
		Murnane	6 Families

County Louth --- total of 3 families
	Barony of Drogheda
		Marnon	1 Family
		Marnin	2 Families

County Meath --- total of 1 family
	Barony of Morgallion
		Marnan	1 Family

County Wexford --- total of 1 family
	Barony of Bargy
		Murnane	1 Family

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